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Post by cynicalpuppet on May 31, 2012 22:11:32 GMT -5
Rank how you think the teams will come out.
Mine are like this:
1 Oklahoma
2 KSU
3 WVU
4 OSU
5 TCU
6 Texas
7 Baylor
8 ISU
9 Tech
10 Kansas
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Post by longhorn99 on May 31, 2012 22:18:34 GMT -5
OU
Texas (Defense + RBs)
KSU
OSU
WV
TCU
Baylor
ISU
Tech
Kansas
That's a small list. We must expand.
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Post by Bone Crusher on May 31, 2012 22:41:07 GMT -5
1. OU
2. UT
3. OSU
4. KSU
5. WVU
6. TCU
7. TT
8. BU
9. ISU
10. KU
WVU and TCU will not have double digit wins this year.
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Post by cynicalpuppet on Jun 1, 2012 16:13:04 GMT -5
OU Texas (Defense + RBs) KSU OSU WV TCU Baylor ISU Tech Kansas That's a small list. We must expand. 99, I fully admit I expect UT to "come out of the closet" any year now and return back to it's former "glory". hehe I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them back in the top 3 of the Big 12 this year. But like most years, the 2-4 teams could end up with 2 losses, the 5-6 teams could be the same, and so on. |
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Post by longhorn99 on Jun 2, 2012 9:45:23 GMT -5
The only thing coming out of the closet is the scary monster whose beatings you are all accustomed to ... Muahaha ...well except for KSU maybe.
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Post by cynicalpuppet on Jun 2, 2012 16:12:40 GMT -5
Yo momma!  |
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Post by architechguy on Jun 5, 2012 13:04:34 GMT -5
Oklahoma 8-1
Texas 7-2
West Virginia 6-3
Kansas State 6-3
TCU 5-4
Oklahoma State 5-4
Texas Tech 4-5
Baylor 4-5
Iowa State 3-6
Kansas 3-6
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Post by cynicalpuppet on Jun 6, 2012 0:15:16 GMT -5
My biggest concern about picking WVU to have any major success i n the Big 12 this year is that they barely beat USF(1 point), Pitt(1 point), Cinc(3 points), Rutgers(10 points), Got the crap kicked out of them by Syracuse and lost to Louisville. They were 15 points from being 6-7.
That doesn't worry anyone else apparently. Add that they lose a lot of defensive starters off an already average, at best, defense.
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Post by Bone Crusher on Jun 6, 2012 10:53:04 GMT -5
That doesn't worry anyone else apparently. Add that they lose a lot of defensive starters off an already average, at best, defense. They lost their DC coordinator. He's at Arizona installing the 3-3-5 for the Wildcats. I think WVU is going to a 4-3 or 3-4 this year. They will have to rely on their O this year. |
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Post by architechguy on Jun 6, 2012 20:04:06 GMT -5
My biggest concern about picking WVU to have any major success i n the Big 12 this year is that they barely beat USF(1 point), Pitt(1 point), Cinc(3 points), Rutgers(10 points), Got the crap kicked out of them by Syracuse and lost to Louisville. They were 15 points from being 6-7. That doesn't worry anyone else apparently. Add that they lose a lot of defensive starters off an already average, at best, defense. Hmm, I was not aware of that. That does change my thoughts. It's also the second red flag for WV. Always beware the team that is carrying momentum from a big bowl win, they get easily overhyped. People think its a sign of a great team, when it can just as easily be the result of a team showing up flat in an exhibition game. I was willing to overlook that with WV, but combined with the close wins, there's letdown potential there! |
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Post by cynicalpuppet on Jun 6, 2012 21:01:39 GMT -5
The fact is, you could take our bottom 2-3 teams and they'd compete in the Big East. That's what makes me cautious when touting WVU. Still, due to the fact that I seem to be the only one with this view, I still put them in the top 3. But as I mentioned with 99, I can see anyone between WVU and Texas switching places.
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Post by architechguy on Jun 6, 2012 21:37:47 GMT -5
The fact is, you could take our bottom 2-3 teams and they'd compete in the Big East. That's what makes me cautious when touting WVU. Still, due to the fact that I seem to be the only one with this view, I still put them in the top 3. But as I mentioned with 99, I can see anyone between WVU and Texas switching places. You're not the only one with that view. I agree with you, it's just that the teams I have behind them come with question marks too. KSU is offensively challenged, TCU is making the same transition, OSU has a freshman QB, Tech is bipolar that never know who shows up each week. It's just hard to tell where WV fits in that, it's just a wild ass guess with them. |
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Post by lynchmob42 on Jun 7, 2012 8:52:51 GMT -5
archi, K-State scored 32 ppg last season, and should be improved offensively. Snyder typically sees big improvement in QBs who are returning starters. K-State looked challenged against OU, UT, and Arky last season. Those are good to great defenses.
Kansas at 3-6? Who will they beat? There is a site that came out yesterday with a point spread on EVERY D-I game for next season. Kansas wasn't less than an 18 point underdog in any conference game.
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Post by architechguy on Jun 7, 2012 12:58:44 GMT -5
I didn't go through and look at anybody's schedule in detail and go game by game (including my own team), so I don't know who they beat. All I'm really saying with that is I expect them to be improved over last year.
If you think the only games the offense struggled are those three games, then you're not looking closely. KSU had 360 yards or less in 5 other games. For the season, you only average 337 ypg. Even an average of 360 would only be about 80th in the country. You'd have to improve by over 100 ypg just to crack the top 25 offenses in the country. Kansas State did a great job of winning games with ball control and defense, there's nothing wrong with that! You can win championships that way. If you think the offense isn't a liability though, you're fooling yourself. Do I think it's going to force KSU into a 5 loss season? Of course not. Do I think it could cost them a game or two more than last season? Perhaps, but that's all I'm saying.
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Post by cynicalpuppet on Jun 7, 2012 16:11:29 GMT -5
archi, K-State scored 32 ppg last season, and should be improved offensively. Snyder typically sees big improvement in QBs who are returning starters. K-State looked challenged against OU, UT, and Arky last season. Those are good to great defenses. Kansas at 3-6? Who will they beat? There is a site that came out yesterday with a point spread on EVERY D-I game for next season. Kansas wasn't less than an 18 point underdog in any conference game. Arky's defense was not good. And I don't recall the game right away, but if KSU was forced out of their comfort(running) by getting behind early, that was most likely why they stumbled. Much like UT. If you can get up on them early and force them to have to pass to keep up, you'll stand a much better chance of beating them. |
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